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PostSubject: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:03 am

Its either going to be Rebel or Cocky. Just not sure which one will be first. They both will get done in time.

Rebel X Gracie
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=209913

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Cocky x Gracie

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=174272

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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:18 am

Who's Cocky? What does he look like?
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:19 am

Cocky is one of Eddies (my mentor) dogs. I will have to get some pics and post them here.

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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 08, 2006 11:31 am

oh okay. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:27 pm

..lol... Iw as wondering the same thing Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Thu Nov 09, 2006 4:17 am

Im sure that Cocky is a great looking dog......... but.........I vote Rebel!!! I love you I love you
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:55 am

Yeah I say Rebel too..... that way you don't have to give up stud fee or first pick of the litter!(if that would be the agreement between you and Cocky's owner)
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:35 am

THAT IS A TUFF CHOICE....THEY BOTH PULL HARD...COCKY CRACKS ME UP THE WAY HE CRAWLS DOWN THE TRACK....THEY BOTH LOOK VERY WELL.....IF IT WAS ME I WOULD GO WITH REBEL THO BECAUSEBLUE IS MY FAVORITE... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:14 am

Ya i I love you rebel!! He is a great looking dog!!! Did Gracie go in heat yet??
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Mon Nov 13, 2006 6:11 am

Oldfort wrote:
Its either going to be Rebel or Cocky. Just not sure which one will be first. They both will get done in time.

Rebel X Gracie
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=209913

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Cocky x Gracie

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=174272

Andy it really depends on what you are looking for here. If you are looking to purify your line, I'd say take to her Cocky, he's a great puller and he would tighten the line.

If you wanna save some cash or pups, whichever, then go with Rebel, really up to you but I'm going to be the outcast of the crowd and vote for Cocky. I'd like to see you throw down some heavy TNT stock. I believe it would make your pups 13/16ths or a little over.
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:02 am

Got any pics of Corky?
Just curious on what he looks like geek
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:06 am

MidwestBully wrote:
Got any pics of Corky?
Just curious on what he looks like geek

Me too!
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:09 am

I will get some pics of Cocky for you all. Im definitely doing both breedings eventually just wondering which one to do first. I think Ill take Rebel to her first and then after a year maybe Cocky.

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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:42 am

Great choice!!!! Reb is awesome What a Face Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Mon Nov 13, 2006 4:40 pm

Yeah! Rebel Rebel! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:38 am

Ok I just went up to Eddies yard and while I was up there got a pic or two of Cocky


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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:44 am

Uh oh!! Thats a nice looking dog!!!!
Hehehe I still think Reb , and then him...
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:29 am

He's cute! But I still say Rebel first! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:50 am

Cocky Cocky Cocky Cocky!!!!!!! lol I know its your choice but imma goin for cocky! lol
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:57 am

Rebel is going first, then Cocky. Like I said they both are getting done but I have several reasons to go with Rebel first.

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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 15, 2006 12:30 pm

Oldfort wrote:
Rebel is going first, then Cocky. Like I said they both are getting done but I have several reasons to go with Rebel first.

I'm glad! Yeah! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 15, 2006 6:22 pm

Oldfort wrote:
Rebel is going first, then Cocky. Like I said they both are getting done but I have several reasons to go with Rebel first.
Are you doing double sired litter? Did you mean this heat Rebel then later Cocky?

Ok first conformation wise REBEL!!!! Cocky doesn't have nothing on Rebel in that area. I can't see Coccky's feet to well but he looks easty westy which isn't a big thing and can be corrected, he looks bigger/thicker then rebel to, and plus black is dominant so that's what the breeding with cocky will mostly produce. All in all in depends on what you are after, I tend to love my red noses more so then black (love em all but reds are my fav even over blue lol, I know this has nothing to do with this breeding but always find myself saying I love red noses lol).

Another thing i noticed about Cocky is he has a weak jaw line! Rebel on the other hand has great conformation, stong head, nice stop and muzzle I wouldn't pick Cocky over him lol but that's just me. Now if your looking at just bloodlines that's different but I still will not sacrafice blood and paper for structure! JMHO
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:24 pm

What??? Did you say black was dominate??
I dont know about that, Harley had a litter of 12 and he had more reds then blacks.... he had- 4 blacks, 5 reds, red brindle, dark brindle, and patched dark brindle...
2nd litter of 10- 1 black, chocolate spoted and white, black spoted and white, chocolate brindle, red brindle and the rest were chocolate... so outta 22 pups he had i would say 6 black, there was only 1 That looked IDENTICAL to him, the rest had spots on the back of their necks, just little ones, like the size of quarters... But Harleys pup "bruno" is identical, i wish i had a pic.... But maybe it had to do with the fact That Harleys mom was red and so was the pups mom, Harleys dad was brindle, harleys dads parents were both brindle... Harleys moms parents were mom chocolate, dad black.... Phew... Gotta give me credit, i know about my dogs lines alittle!! So maybe all the chocolate in the lines had to do with it... Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Wed Nov 15, 2006 11:38 pm

YESS I DEFINITELY meant Rebel one heat, skip a heat or two then Cocky. The reason for me doing the Cocky breeding is size and pedigree. Cocky when fat comes in at 55lbs usually 50-53conditioned so I like the smaller stature. Also the pedigree to put back into my stuff. Depending on where Im at at the time the two are ready to be bred I may or may not do it.

If I could do any breeding at all it would be Rebel to Gypsy!

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PostSubject: Re: Gracie by???   Thu Nov 16, 2006 1:51 am

Oldfort wrote:
YESS I DEFINITELY meant Rebel one heat, skip a heat or two then Cocky. The reason for me doing the Cocky breeding is size and pedigree. Cocky when fat comes in at 55lbs usually 50-53conditioned so I like the smaller stature. Also the pedigree to put back into my stuff. Depending on where Im at at the time the two are ready to be bred I may or may not do it.

If I could do any breeding at all it would be Rebel to Gypsy!

uhm did I hear you right? Rebel to Gypsy.....uhm yea hit me up when you do that one...LOL
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