Gracie by???

Its either going to be Rebel or Cocky. Just not sure which one will be first. They both will get done in time.

Rebel X Gracie
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=209913

or

Cocky x Gracie

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=174272

Who's Cocky? What does he look like?

Cocky is one of Eddies (my mentor) dogs. I will have to get some pics and post them here.

oh okay.

..lol... Iw as wondering the same thing

Im sure that Cocky is a great looking dog......... but.........I vote Rebel!!!

Yeah I say Rebel too..... that way you don't have to give up stud fee or first pick of the litter!(if that would be the agreement between you and Cocky's owner)

THAT IS A TUFF CHOICE....THEY BOTH PULL HARD...COCKY CRACKS ME UP THE WAY HE CRAWLS DOWN THE TRACK....THEY BOTH LOOK VERY WELL.....IF IT WAS ME I WOULD GO WITH REBEL THO BECAUSEBLUE IS MY FAVORITE...

Ya i rebel!! He is a great looking dog!!! Did Gracie go in heat yet??

Oldfort wrote:

Its either going to be Rebel or Cocky. Just not sure which one will be first. They both will get done in time.

Rebel X Gracie
http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=209913

or

Cocky x Gracie

http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=174272

Andy it really depends on what you are looking for here. If you are looking to purify your line, I'd say take to her Cocky, he's a great puller and he would tighten the line.

If you wanna save some cash or pups, whichever, then go with Rebel, really up to you but I'm going to be the outcast of the crowd and vote for Cocky. I'd like to see you throw down some heavy TNT stock. I believe it would make your pups 13/16ths or a little over.

Got any pics of Corky?
Just curious on what he looks like

MidwestBully wrote:

Got any pics of Corky?
Just curious on what he looks like

Me too!

I will get some pics of Cocky for you all. Im definitely doing both breedings eventually just wondering which one to do first. I think Ill take Rebel to her first and then after a year maybe Cocky.

Great choice!!!! Reb is awesome

Yeah! Rebel Rebel!

Ok I just went up to Eddies yard and while I was up there got a pic or two of Cocky

Uh oh!! Thats a nice looking dog!!!!
Hehehe I still think Reb , and then him...

He's cute! But I still say Rebel first!

Cocky Cocky Cocky Cocky!!!!!!! lol I know its your choice but imma goin for cocky! lol

Rebel is going first, then Cocky. Like I said they both are getting done but I have several reasons to go with Rebel first.

Oldfort wrote:

Rebel is going first, then Cocky. Like I said they both are getting done but I have several reasons to go with Rebel first.

I'm glad! Yeah!

Oldfort wrote:

Rebel is going first, then Cocky. Like I said they both are getting done but I have several reasons to go with Rebel first.

Are you doing double sired litter? Did you mean this heat Rebel then later Cocky?

Ok first conformation wise REBEL!!!! Cocky doesn't have nothing on Rebel in that area. I can't see Coccky's feet to well but he looks easty westy which isn't a big thing and can be corrected, he looks bigger/thicker then rebel to, and plus black is dominant so that's what the breeding with cocky will mostly produce. All in all in depends on what you are after, I tend to love my red noses more so then black (love em all but reds are my fav even over blue lol, I know this has nothing to do with this breeding but always find myself saying I love red noses lol).

Another thing i noticed about Cocky is he has a weak jaw line! Rebel on the other hand has great conformation, stong head, nice stop and muzzle I wouldn't pick Cocky over him lol but that's just me. Now if your looking at just bloodlines that's different but I still will not sacrafice blood and paper for structure! JMHO

What??? Did you say black was dominate??
I dont know about that, Harley had a litter of 12 and he had more reds then blacks.... he had- 4 blacks, 5 reds, red brindle, dark brindle, and patched dark brindle...
2nd litter of 10- 1 black, chocolate spoted and white, black spoted and white, chocolate brindle, red brindle and the rest were chocolate... so outta 22 pups he had i would say 6 black, there was only 1 That looked IDENTICAL to him, the rest had spots on the back of their necks, just little ones, like the size of quarters... But Harleys pup "bruno" is identical, i wish i had a pic.... But maybe it had to do with the fact That Harleys mom was red and so was the pups mom, Harleys dad was brindle, harleys dads parents were both brindle... Harleys moms parents were mom chocolate, dad black.... Phew... Gotta give me credit, i know about my dogs lines alittle!! So maybe all the chocolate in the lines had to do with it...

YESS I DEFINITELY meant Rebel one heat, skip a heat or two then Cocky. The reason for me doing the Cocky breeding is size and pedigree. Cocky when fat comes in at 55lbs usually 50-53conditioned so I like the smaller stature. Also the pedigree to put back into my stuff. Depending on where Im at at the time the two are ready to be bred I may or may not do it.

If I could do any breeding at all it would be Rebel to Gypsy!

Oldfort wrote:

YESS I DEFINITELY meant Rebel one heat, skip a heat or two then Cocky. The reason for me doing the Cocky breeding is size and pedigree. Cocky when fat comes in at 55lbs usually 50-53conditioned so I like the smaller stature. Also the pedigree to put back into my stuff. Depending on where Im at at the time the two are ready to be bred I may or may not do it.

If I could do any breeding at all it would be Rebel to Gypsy!

uhm did I hear you right? Rebel to Gypsy.....uhm yea hit me up when you do that one...LOL