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PostSubject: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSun Feb 11, 2007 10:39 pm

is diamond a good brand of food?
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSun Feb 11, 2007 10:48 pm

it works really well for us.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSun Feb 11, 2007 10:52 pm

yea thats all ive been feeding my pits and its preatty good on keepin good weight and a good shiny coat. but my oldest is not having solid poop with it latly so i didnt know if it was food or hes sick
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSun Feb 11, 2007 10:52 pm

I used Diamond for awhile a few years ago and I didn't see much difference in the dogs coat, amount of stool or how much they ate with the purina one I had been feeding.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSun Feb 11, 2007 11:24 pm

i used diamond lamb and rice formula and rico ha an alergic reaction some might remember from go pitbull
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeMon Feb 12, 2007 1:00 am

I don't have much experience with it. I trird it but my dogs wouldn't touch it.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeMon Feb 12, 2007 2:07 am

i feed it.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeMon Feb 12, 2007 2:15 am

How to grade your dog's food:
Start with a grade of 100:

1) For every listing of "by-product", subtract 10 points

2) For every non-specific animal source ("meat" or "poultry", meat, meal or fat) reference, subtract 10 points

3) If the food contains BHA, BHT, or ethoxyquin, subtract 10 points

4) For every grain "mill run" or non-specific grain source,subtract 5 points

5) If the same grain ingredient is used 2 or more times in the first five ingredients (i.e. "ground brown rice", "brewerâ?Ts rice", "rice flour" are all the same grain), subtract 5 points

6) If the protein sources are not meat meal and there are less than 2 meats in the top 3 ingredients, subtract 3 points

7) If it contains any artificial colorants, subtract 3 points

8 ) If it contains ground corn or whole grain corn, subtract 3points

9) If corn is listed in the top 5 ingredients, subtract 2 morepoints

10) If the food contains any animal fat other than fish oil,subtract 2 points

11) If lamb is the only animal protein source (unless your dog is allergic to other protein sources), subtract 2 points

12) If it contains soy or soybeans, subtract 2 points

13) If it contains wheat (unless you know that your dog isnâ?Tt allergic to wheat), subtract 2 points

14) If it contains beef (unless you know that your dog isnâ?Tt allergic to beef), subtract 1 point

15) If it contains salt, subtract 1 point

Extra Credit:

1) If any of the meat sources are organic, add 5 points

2) If the food is endorsed by any major breed group or
nutritionist, add 5 points

3) If the food is baked not extruded, add 5 points

4) If the food contains probiotics, add 3 points

5) If the food contains fruit, add 3 points

6) If the food contains vegetables (NOT corn or other grains), add 3 points

7) If the animal sources are hormone-free and antibiotic-free, add 2 points

8 ) If the food contains barley, add 2 points

9) If the food contains flax seed oil (not just the seeds), add 2 points

10) If the food contains oats or oatmeal, add 1 point

11) If the food contains sunflower oil, add 1 point

12) For every different specific animal protein source (other than
the first one; count "chicken" and "chicken meal" as only one protein source, but "chicken" and "" as 2 different sources), add 1 point

13) If it contains glucosamine and chondroitin, add 1 point

14) If the vegetables have been tested for pesticides and are pesticide-free, add 1 point

94-100+ = A
86-93 = B
78-85 = C
70-77 = D

69 = F

Here are some foods that have already been scored. If you don't
see your dog's food here, ask and someone will score it for you.
Dog Food scores:

Authority Harvest Baked / Score 116 A+

Bil-Jac Select / Score 68 F

Canidae / Score 112 A+

Chicken Soup Senior / Score 115 A+

Diamond Maintenance / Score 64 F

Diamond Lamb Meal & Rice / Score 92 B

Diamond Large Breed 60+ Formula / Score 99 A

!!!!! Van Patten's Natural Balance Ultra Premium / Score 122 A+

!!!!! Van Patten's Duck and Potato / Score 106 A+

Foundations / Score 106 A+

Hund-n-Flocken Adult Dog (lamb) by Solid Gold / Score 93 D

Iams Lamb Meal & Rice Formula Premium / Score 73 D

Innova Dog / Score 114 A+

Innova Evo / Score 114 A+

Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables / Score 110 A+

Nutrisource Lamb and Rice / Score 87 B

Nutro Natural Choice Large Breed Puppy / Score 87 B

Pet Gold Adult with Lamb & Rice / Score 23 F

ProPlan Natural Turkey & Barley / Score 103 A+

Purina Benful / Score 17 F

Purina Dog / Score 62 F

Purina Come-n-Get It / Score 16 F

Royal Canin Bulldog / Score 100 A+

Royal Canin Natural Blend Adult / Score 106 A+

Sensible Choice Chicken and Rice / Score 97 A

Science Diet Advanced Protein Senior 7+ / Score 63 F
Science Diet for Large Breed Puppies / Score 69 F

Wellness Super5 Mix Chicken / Score 110 A+

Wolfking Adult Dog (bison) by Solid Gold / Score 97 A
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeMon Feb 12, 2007 2:50 am

Innova EVO baby, all day!!! 114 A+
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeMon Feb 12, 2007 2:53 am

MidwestBully wrote:
Innova EVO baby, all day!!! 114 A+

LOL Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeMon Feb 12, 2007 4:58 am

i use Diamond Maintenance and like i didnt think it set to good with him. when i took him to the vet they told me all i could feed him is chicken cuz he has food alliergies, so looks like im gonna swith to Chicken Soup Senior
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeThu Feb 15, 2007 12:22 am

Kirkland Signature Chicken, Rice, and Vegetables / Score 110 A+
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSun Feb 18, 2007 12:56 am

I recently bought Innova Evo, love it! I wont feed Diamond or black gold, dont like it, but to each their own..lol Thanks to Jessica I found my favorite dog food! I also made Satin Balls last night (messy, and I hate the smell of molasses) but the dogs seem to like it, I hope they continue to like it cause I've got a freezer full of it..lol!
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSun Feb 18, 2007 10:17 pm

And this is just my opnion also i dont use the satin balls anymore either you spend all this money making them the dogs love them but does it really do anything for the dog i have do exactly what everyone has said as far as when to give it to them how much to give them and so on and didnt see any diff then feeding them good kibble except for that after i had them on it it took forever to get them back to there normal food they say its supposed to put the weight on them and fast so i tried it for the winter months here and didnt see no improvment at all maybe its just me i dont know lol but i know i wont waste money making that messy stuff when i can go to costco and get non messy kirckland in a bag ready to feed lol
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeMon Feb 19, 2007 4:24 am

We feed Diamond Lamb and Rice during the competitive season suplemented with raw.

During the off season we feed Diamond Maint with raw.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeFri Feb 23, 2007 12:59 am

what kind of raw do you feed Andy?
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeFri Feb 23, 2007 2:01 am

i got a question to, how do you split up raw and kibble? how much do you give of raw and how much do you give of kibbel
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeFri Feb 23, 2007 11:48 pm

MY dogs get very precise measured amounts of food and it will vary according to work loads and how they do with it.

For example during the winter we feed 4 level measured cups of food each day with multivitamin, Raw egg and a few other things. The dogs get weighed every 5-7 days and a desired weight is maintained. For Rebel it was 60-61lbs during the winter, about 5lbs over what he competes at. When he is weighed if I see him falling under then he get a half a cup of food more, if he is gaining half a cup less. Believe it or not 1/2 a cup can really change their weight as to what the metabolize.

Now that the season is under way we go back to 3 cups a day and excerise. Once we have reached our target weight,(TW=weight at which the dog is leanest/strongest WITHOUT losing muscle) then I feed accordingly to maintain that weight. Rebel is currently 57lbs and that is where I am going to hold him. I can dry him out the night before a show and bring him in on the scales at 55lbs, the bottom of his class where I want him.

Here recently I have really really been conditioning the dogs so as Im weighing them now every 3 days when I began to see the weight drop some due to the increase in work, I increased the food accordingly.


As far as kibble and raw yess we do more of that as the season gets under way. I like to get them high protein sources straight from meat 2 weeks before a show I increase their protein intake considerably, usually by using raw liver, very good for them! Also you can add B-12 and B-15 but if you dont know what your doing I wouldnt give it through injections.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSat Feb 24, 2007 10:11 pm

i have fed raw but was told not to mix it with kibble because the benefit of it wouldn't exist with kibble mixed! I feed raw because the kibble blew out the dogs coat and the other had hot spots and raw cleared it up. If your having skin issues let me know and I'll post a really good link on the raw diet and info on it.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSun Feb 25, 2007 4:43 pm

I've recently made the switch to Diamond. I'm on about the 5th bag and I can already notice the difference and I'm pleased. They seem to feel alot better and their coats have improved both in appearance as well as "texture".

All dogs respond differently to different types of food so I'd say try a few different brands until you find one that works for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeSun Feb 25, 2007 4:45 pm

I usually give them a raw egg every other day and some raw steak or hamburger meat on the weekends.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeMon Feb 26, 2007 1:16 am

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i have fed raw but was told not to mix it with kibble because the benefit of it wouldn't exist with kibble mixed!


Exactly how would adding raw to kibble not benefit? How would kibble take away from the raw food? That doesnt make any sense to me? Its not like just because I use kibble its going to form a chemical reaction with raw food and neutralize all the proteins and fat in the raw.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeWed Feb 28, 2007 2:40 pm

I have fed many different feeds from Science Diet, Eukanuba, Pro Plan, Diamond (maintance, lamb and rice) Nutro, Cannidea, IAMS, you name it I have tried it.

Every single food that I have tried never amounted up to what Nutro has done for them. Less stools, harder stools, shinier coats, etc. I changed from Nutro to Diamond Natural Lamb and Rice and my dogs ate almost 3 times as much as what they ate of Nutro, they lost weight, they had runny stools the whole time (it never hardened), and their coats were looking horrible. I promised myself and to my dogs that I wont ever change again. I'll stick to Nutro.
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeWed Feb 28, 2007 8:07 pm

I used nutro and got the opposite results, lol It's odd how we can all feed something different and come up with different results but it happens. You have to stick with what suits your dogs, everyone in the world can make recommendations, but you can only use what makes your dogs maintain the weight, energy levels, and coat appearance that is right for them. Not every dog is the same, so sometimes, if you have one dog that is off a little, you may have to change just that dogs food. Perks of owning more than one dog. What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: Diamond   Diamond Icon_minitimeTue Mar 13, 2007 3:15 am

i feed kirkland lamb and rice it works well
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